The Uncarved Block

I don’t know about you, but there are a few random words, words I was unfamiliar with before college, that I remember from my undergraduate education…and since there are only a handful of words I guess that means they cost a lot per word. Oh well.

One word is “Hundun” which in Taoist philosophy means “the uncarved block.” I found the following explaination at the Aisa for Educators site by Columbia University (where Joseph Campbell attended, ran on the track team and once experienced an epiphany).

For Daoists the philosophical equivalent to the pre-imperial primordium is a state of chaotic wholeness, sometimes called hundun, roughly translated as “chaos.” In that state, imagined as an uncarved block or as the beginning of life in the womb, nothing is lacking. Everything exists, everything is possible: before a stone is carved there is no limit to the designs that may be cut…

Last Friday was the fifth day of sanctioned high school cross country practice in the state of Colorado and it was also the first day of practice with my newest charge, Tyler McCandless. Those two items, coupled with Vern Gambetta’s post on how his friend, Kenyon College swimming coach Jim Steen starts each year from scratch, as if he knows nothing, as if the 31 straight DIII men’s swimming titles came from three decades of dumb luck, lead me to do the same. The concept of the Hundun was the obvious thought my squiggly (and hopefully pliable) synapses produced.

So this is the starting from scratch, pretending I know nothing (not that hard) and hoping this post is useful for the high school coaches officially starting their season.

My job as a post collegiate coach is as follows:

1. Keep the athlete healthy. A healthy runner can run more days in a week, more weeks in a month, more months in a year. This leads to consistency. Consistency in distance running may be the most important aspect of running. Related is the idea that an injury is a training error. Or to be blunt, if they get hurt it’s my fault.

2. We need to run hard. Intensity, quality, what ever you want to term it, is extremely important and the only way the athlete can realize their full athletic potential as a distance runner is to do a great deal of running hard. (Note: I’m not concerned with the exact physiological definition of this – percentage of VO2max, meters run at 5k pace or miles run at half marathon pace – but rather the simple concept that some running is hard and some running is easy and that we want to do a lot of running hard).

3. The balance of 1 and 2 is akin to making a killer salad, balancing salt and acidity, finding the right amount for each ingredient in that particular salad. When it’s done well it’s so good, so obvious that I deceive myself by thinking that I’ll get back to my kitchen be able to easily replicate that salad, yet I rarely can. When it goes wrong it’s often hard to find that exact spot where the act of combing the ingredients went wrong. This is the view from which I want to view previous year’s logs.

4. Consider stealing more analogies from Thomas Keller as I like the third point and it’s verbatim what he says about salads in Ad Hoc. Someday I’ll post on how his view of distilling a dish down to one or two elements helped me understand how the weight room works in a week’s cycle.

5. Remember that Thomas Keller spent two years (give or take) working at a job where everyday he had to make hollandaise. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it broke. After days and days of practice he could make it right every time…after he had broken a few sauces. He has a feel in the kitchen. I need to have a feel out at the track. I should not coach off of excel sheets, but rather look at the athlete and listen to them (knowing that they lie and want to do more) and then give them the next logical step in their workout, in their progression towards a greater level of fitness.

6. Because I believe a better athlete is a better runner then they need to become better athletes. I’ve likely taken this too far in the past and I need to do a better job of, as Vern Gambetta often says, “the need to do vs. the nice to do.” (His friend Gary Winkler said it in this interview as well). What is the need to do?

…I’ll leave that to a separate post as I want to keep thinking macro and my head starting to hurt as I was drilling down to the micro. Stay tuned…

7. While all post collegiate athletes are intrinsically motivated to train and train hard, do the best job I can at looking at the macro-cycles and figuring out how hard we can push for how long. That said, this is hard to do and I don’t think anyone has this dialed in. Related: injuries likely come when you’ve pushed past the threshold of organic motivation, their natural motivation to train hard and race. Fatigue is the issue.

8. Volume. I know – wait, I think – two of the athletes I work with need to run more. But maybe they don’t. Maybe they need to run more of their current volume hard. Or maybe they just need to run the hard volume they were running harder.

…wow, it’s really hard to do pretend I’m staring from scratch as I already had my plan for volume and intensity pretty well planned out, at least for one athlete. But this is good and this is the point of the exercise. So back to the list later this week.

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  • Chris Puppione

    Jay-

    Love the “uncarved block” line here–it reminds me of the book, The Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff. Hoff ties in the Winnie the Pooh storyline with Taoism, as he engages Pooh in a fictional discussion during which he explains to the bear that he has been named aptly after the written Chinese character P'u, which means either “things in their natural state” or “uncarved block.”

    Anyway, what I find interesting is the segment in the Foreword discussing the painting “The Vinegar Tasters”–a piece of artwork showing Confucius, Buddha, and Lao-tse. Each man has just dipped his finger in the vat of vinegar and tasted it, with Confucius wearing a sour face, Buddha sporting a bitter face, and Lao-tse smiling. The portrait is said to reflect their outlook on life on Earth.

    Well, after considering what you have said, I am looking at it as how some coaches regard training athletes.

    Confucius coaches = Those who stand by set principles and ancient (archaic?) rituals, and believe in prescribed steps and phases to be used at specific times again and again. They follow a plan and not an athlete–i.e. they coach the sport and not the individual.

    Buddha coaches = These are the coaches who are so focused on the trappings and sufferings of the sport, they deny the athlete a chance for risks or to dream. Desireless, right? Then what drives the athlete if we eliminate that “organic motivation” that you mentioned above? The road to “Nirvana” is that of suffering–is that how we want to approach training?

    Lao-tse coaches = Those are the coaches who choose to not interfere with the natural laws–those who avoid forcing things to happen, as forcing leads to trouble and a break in harmony. To quote from the text directly: “Whether heavy or light, wet or dry, fast or slow, everything had its own nature already within it, which could not be violated without causing difficulties. When abstract and arbitrary rules were imposed from the outside, struggle was inevitable. Only then did life become sour. To Lao-tse, the world was not a setter of traps but a teacher of valuable lessons.”

    So I guess what I am saying is that if we are in step with the Tao or “the Way”, we are working harmoniously with our athletes and the sport in each moment in a new and unique way. And when things may appear sour or bitter, if we follow the Taoist principles, we can recognize these as merely being the result of interference and understand that if we pay attention and roll with it, things will be as they should if we just allow them to be.

    This seems like a bit of a tangent or reach, but it is what popped in my head when I read your post.

    So there.

    Chris

  • Chris Puppione

    Jay-

    Love the “uncarved block” line here–it reminds me of the book, The Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff. Hoff ties in the Winnie the Pooh storyline with Taoism, as he engages Pooh in a fictional discussion during which he explains to the bear that he has been named aptly after the written Chinese character P'u, which means either “things in their natural state” or “uncarved block.”

    Anyway, what I find interesting is the segment in the Foreword discussing the painting “The Vinegar Tasters”–a piece of artwork showing Confucius, Buddha, and Lao-tse. Each man has just dipped his finger in the vat of vinegar and tasted it, with Confucius wearing a sour face, Buddha sporting a bitter face, and Lao-tse smiling. The portrait is said to reflect their outlook on life on Earth.

    Well, after considering what you have said, I am looking at it as how some coaches regard training athletes.

    Confucius coaches = Those who stand by set principles and ancient (archaic?) rituals, and believe in prescribed steps and phases to be used at specific times again and again. They follow a plan and not an athlete–i.e. they coach the sport and not the individual.

    Buddha coaches = These are the coaches who are so focused on the trappings and sufferings of the sport, they deny the athlete a chance for risks or to dream. Desireless, right? Then what drives the athlete if we eliminate that “organic motivation” that you mentioned above? The road to “Nirvana” is that of suffering–is that how we want to approach training?

    Lao-tse coaches = Those are the coaches who choose to not interfere with the natural laws–those who avoid forcing things to happen, as forcing leads to trouble and a break in harmony. To quote from the text directly: “Whether heavy or light, wet or dry, fast or slow, everything had its own nature already within it, which could not be violated without causing difficulties. When abstract and arbitrary rules were imposed from the outside, struggle was inevitable. Only then did life become sour. To Lao-tse, the world was not a setter of traps but a teacher of valuable lessons.”

    So I guess what I am saying is that if we are in step with the Tao or “the Way”, we are working harmoniously with our athletes and the sport in each moment in a new and unique way. And when things may appear sour or bitter, if we follow the Taoist principles, we can recognize these as merely being the result of interference and understand that if we pay attention and roll with it, things will be as they should if we just allow them to be.

    This seems like a bit of a tangent or reach, but it is what popped in my head when I read your post.

    So there.

    Chris

  • Matt

    Lots of fodder for future blog posts here! Obviously, volume vs intensity, but relatedly, is fatigue the only / main issue that brings about injuries? And how does fatigue then tie into the [more] volume vs [more] intensity question.

  • http://coachjayjohnson.com CoachJay

    Wow! Thanks so much Chris. It's been a while since I've read the Tao of Pooh and the Te of Piglet, but this is a reason to re-read.

    I agree that there is a natural way to coach distance runners and that it's not that complicated to find a balance, though I think it takes a lot of skill and feel. That said, I'm behind on writing progressions for the ancillary work that we do and to me that work feels less Taoist and more Germanic but maybe that's me inability to find “the watercourse way.” Either way, thanks so much for the comment.

  • http://coachjayjohnson.com CoachJay

    Adam Kedge sent this to me via email as the Disqus comment system wasn't working.

    Jay,
    I like the new post, good reading. At any level we need to get `em better and to do that your two main points are well taken. 1) Our athletes need to remain healthy, the need to do comes into play here. You've come about as close as I can think of at mastering the need to do in relationship to keeping athletes healthy. Note to all, if you're not doing many of the Jay-esque stuff he's given us, your athletes are red-lining the health-o-meter. and 2) We need to balance that with the need to work hard. Ground your system in hard work, just don't go crazy on it. The need to do comes into play here too, the need to do some recovery / easy running. CRI-TIC-CAL, super important.
    To your summary paragraph on preconceived ideas about where to go: Very few of us start from scratch, wisdom my friend says that in our line of work we see the “uncarved block” with it's shape, the knots, and the grain, and to us it looks like something beautiful. It is our little artistic vision that hopefully turns it into a a blazing-5Ker or super steepler. -Adam Kedge

  • thomas_t

    Hey Jay–

    Great post. I think, the one thing that this site needs is more food based analogies.
    I remember Coach Puppione had a good one on the <a href=”http://www.coachjayjohnson.com/2010/01/peaking/#comment-28761125
    “>Minestrone Maxims on your post about peaking. At the time I wanted to be a devil's advocate and argue that training might be more like a Holiday Brisket where ingredients are added separately b/c some go to mush before others (I couldn't find a good recipe online so I posted my mom's below, but first are the onions, then the carrots, then the yams and the prunes. The result, something greater than the sum of its parts) But, I never got round to it…till now, I guess.

    Anyway, the concept of the uncarved block is interesting. I guess I find it easier to see it from Coach Kedge's perspective: the untapped potential that might yet turn into the “blazing 5k-er or super steepler” than Jim Steen's “start from scratch” approach–not that I am anyone to argue with 31 national titles. It seems to me as if Steen’s approach (and the hundun concept) is a more useful as a philosophy than in practice. Something that is catchy to say at coaching clinics because, as Bowerman use to say, “To train a mule, first you’ve got to get its attention.” In other words, approach each season as if it is new and don’t get bound up in having to do things a certain way because it worked last year with a certain athlete or team, but instead be adaptable and open to what the present holds available, in the way a good chef lets the freshest ingredients shape the recipe or the menu, rather trying to impose a preconceived menu on what the market has to offer. To stay with the chef metaphor, Thomas Keller learned from all those hollandaise sauces he broke, and as a result is better at making hollandaise now. To ignore the lessons our athletes have taught us is a disservice to not only them, but to ourselves as well as our future athletes. To summarize, and in keeping with the Eastern Philosophy-bent this post has taken, while the concept of hundun maybe instructive one must not confused the <a href=”http://www.storiesofwisdom.com/finger-pointing-at-the-moon/
    “>finger for the moon. I also quibble a bit with the characterization of “Buddha Coaches” but that’s for another post.

    Be Well, Thos

    Holiday Brisket

    1) Heat oven 325 degrees. 2) Season brisket on both sides w/ salt and pepper.
    3) Place in shallow roasting pan, larger than brisket.4) Sprinkle w/ garlic.5) Cover top of brisket w/ onions adn ketsup.6) Drizzle with worchester sauce and sprinkle thyme.7) Pour over H2O to a depth of 1/4 “8) Cover loosely with foil and roast ONE (1) hour9)Baste and add water as needed to maintain 1/4 “.10)Cover (tightly) and cook TWO (2) more hours. 11)After a total of THREE (3) hours, add carrots and baste.12)Add water if needed ******** i actually forgot to add the original water, added a little after about 30 minutes and never had to add more)14)Roast FORTY FIVE (45) minutes longer. 15)Add yams, prunes and water as needed.16)Roast approximately ONE (1) hour longer 'til veggies are roasted and tender.17)Let stand 10 minutes—slice across the grain.18)Drizzle with sauce and veggies on the side

  • thomas_t

    I can't get that first link to work. Anyway, it's here: http://www.coachjayjohnson.com/2010/01/peaking/…